Lula belle Mcilhaney

Notes:

Died:
Coryll Baptist Church Cemetery, Oglesby, Texas

William married Mary Charlesann Elizabeth Carter. Mary (daughter of Robert M Carter and Rebecca S. Karnes) was born in Sep 1844 in Tiippah County, Mississippi; died in Oct 1911 in Coryell County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 8272

Notes:

Mary "Mollie" Charlesann Elizabeth Carter was born in Tippah County, Mississippi. Her parents were James Carter and Salina Roxanna Dean. In 1851, the Carters moved to Webberville on the Colorado River in Travis County, Texas. That is where Mollie married William J.G. McIlhaney on Feb. 12, 1867. They were married by Albert Brown, and their marriage is recorded in Travis County Marriage Book 2, page 408. Soon after their marriage, Mollie and husband moved to Coryell County, Texas, where they spent the rest of their lives. All but three of their ten children grew to adulthood: Lula Belle 1870-1929, John Richardson 1873-1949, Anne Etta 1875-1876, William Arthur 1876-1960, Oliver Lee 1878-1956, Selena Jane 1880-1881, Frank B. 1881-1962, Ida Mae 1884-1886, and Ethel Elizabeth 1887-1960. Mollie and her husband were members of the Coryell Baptist Church, where her husband served as a deacon. He was also a Justice of the Peace. They owned 1,000+ acres in Coryell County and also ran a store in the Waldo community. Mollie's husband died in 1904. In 1910, she was living with her daughter Lula Belle in Taylor County, Texas. During her widowhood, she may also have lived with her sons John R. and Ollie in Wilbarger County, Texas. She passed away on October 23, 1911. There is no death record, and there are differing stories regarding where she died. One says she was visiting her sister Sarah Etter Summers in Crawford, Texas. Another says she was traveling on a train between Tolbert and Gatesville when she died. One granddaughter said that Mollie spoke happily of childhood Christmases spent at Bastrop, Texas (near Webberville) in the 1850s and 1860s. She said Mollie was a quiet woman who loved her children and who was well loved.

Died:
Coryll Baptist Church Cemetery, Oglesby, Texas

Other Events:

• FSID: LZD1-2TP
• Reference Number: 7263
• Residence: 1850, Tippah county, Tippah, Mississippi
• Residence: 1860, Precinct No 3, Travis, Texas, United States

Notes:

1850: in Tippah County, Miss. with parents.
1860: in Travis County, Texas with parents.
1862: enlisted in Confed Army with bro. William at Bastrop1-18-1862 and mustered in in Dallas 3-15-1862. Private, Co. B, 18th Tx Cav., Darnell's Regt. Card Nos. 50325978 and 6098.
1866: married Rebecca S. Karnes10-24-1866, Coryell Co. Book B, Page 65.

1870: per census, in City of Waco (Ed , pg21 (41?), Ln32, hse147, fam.162), June 1870: Robert Carter, 28, MS, saddle tree maker; Rebecca, 23, keeping house, KY; Mary, 2, TX; Next door to Richard Miller, wagonmaker, 36 AL; then next door to Im? Sadler, lawyer, 29, TN.

1876: Waco City Directory, there is an R.M. Carter at 10 N. 6th St. who was a mechanic.

1878-79: Waco City Directory, there is a Robert M. Carter at 10 N. 6th between Austin and Washington, a policeman.

1880: haven't found him on this census. On 1880 census the "married" box is checked for Rebecca but she and her daughters lived with her father, not Robert (Coryell, ED26, Sh31, Ln49, June 1880). Her father was Charles F. Karnes, born Virginia. His wife was Mary A., and there was a son George N., b. Texas and 11 years younger than Rebecca.

1900: haven't found him on this census.
Robert M. Carter "disappears" in the 1870s. Have found no notice of his death. No one claimed his Civil War pension. Rebecca is not living with him on the 1880 census, but it does say she is married, not widowed or divorced. Did he die or did they divorce? His wife and three of their daughters, in about the late 1880s, joined a commune called the Sanctified Sisters in Belton and moved to Wash. D.C. with them. They remained there the rest of their lives.

There is an R.M. Carter who married a Mattie M. Harris 1881 McLennan County. Have found no further information. Do not know who that is.

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Find A Grave
I am uncertain that the Robert Carter** buried at Holy Cross is actually the Robert M. Carter described below. Holy Cross is a Catholic Cemetery; but the Robert M. Carter described below was not Catholic, and his wife Rebecca Karnes was not Catholic. Also, the obituary** for the "Bob Carter" at Holy Cross states that he was eleven years younger than the Robert M. Carter described below. The only way I believe this Robert Carter is the same as Robert M. Carter below is if (1) there is a plausible explanation for why he was placed in a Catholic cemetery and (2) the age given in the obituary is incorrect.
**Obituary in Waco newspaper: "Robert Carter, old resident of city, died Aug. 21, 1897 in East Waco. Burial on 17th." [Based on Fall and Puckett records, date should be 16th not 21st.]
Fall and Puckett Funeral Home Records: "Carter, Bob 45 yrs; by McLennan County; d. of cancer, Aug. 16, 1897; int. at Catholic Cem., Aug. 17; 9.00; 10-2578"
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ROBERT M. CARTER
Robert M. Carter was born in 1841 in Tippah County, Mississippi, the son of James Carter and Salina Roxanna Dean. The Carters moved from Mississippi to Texas in 1851. Robert enlisted with his brother William L. Carter in the Confederate Army at Bastrop, Texas on 1-18-1862. They both served in Co. B, 18th Tx Cav., Darnell's Regiment. He married Rebecca S. Karnes in Coryell County, Texas on 14 Oct 1866. They had at least five children: Mary E., Lota Bell, Lela Rebecca, James Thomas, and Susie Effie. Robert was a wagoner and a saddler, and possibly a mechanic and a policeman in Waco, Texas in the 1870s. He disappears from the records as of 1880, at which time his wife and children appear on the census in the household of her father.


Died:
Holy Cross Cemetery, Waco, McLennan County, Texas

Robert married Rebecca S. Karnes on 24 Oct 1866. Rebecca (daughter of Charles Thomas Karnes and Mary Holmes) was born in 1847 in Kentucky, USA; died on 7 Jun 1924 in Washington DC. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: 7330

Notes:

Died:
Rock Creek Cemetery, Washington, DC

Other Events:

• FSID: K89N-QMR
• Reference Number: 4914
• Census: 19 Sep 1850, Tippah County , Mississippi
• Residence: 1860, Precinct No 3, Travis, Texas, United States
• Census: 18 Jul 1860, Cuero, DeWitt County Texas
• Residence: 1870, Texas, United States
• Census: 23 Jun 1870, McLennan County, Texas
• Census: 8 Jun 1880, McLennan County, Texas

Notes:

Birth: Apr. 22, 1815
Death: Jul. 15, 1892

CENSUS RECORDS:
1840, Tippah Co. MS
James Carter, 2 males under age 5, one male 20-30, one female 20-30.

1845 Tippah County, MS, state census
James Carter, 4 males, 2 females, no other names or ages given.

1850, Tippah Co., MS, District 2, page 419B
James Carter, age 33, farmer, b.NC, value of real estate: $200; Salina, 31, b.GA; William, 13, b.TN; Robert, 9, b.MS; Mary, 6, b.MS; Sarah E., 4, b.MS; Emily, 9 months, b.MS [Emily is probably Amanda Roxanna, not Emily].

1860, Travis Co. TX, Prec.3, Webberville, pg.23 (249), 7-18-1860, Fam.#160
CARTER, James, 39, wagoner, b.Alabama, $500 real estate, $1500 personal estate; Salina, 35, wife, TN; R.M., 19, wagoner, MS [Robert M.]; M.C.E., 15, MS ["Mollie" Mary Charlesann Elizabeth]; S.E., 13, MS [Sarah Etter]; Amanda, 11, MS; E.B., 9, TX [Anna Belle, census taker error]; J.B., 6, TX [James Buchanan "Buck"]; M., 1, TX ["Missie" Missalina].

1870, Waco, McLennan County, TX, 6-23-1870, pg. 24B
James Carter 55 SC wagoner, no value given for real estate or personal estate; "Felina" 51 GA [census error, should say Salina]; Amanda 17 TX; Bell 15 TX; James 13 TX; school; Missalina 10 TX; also living in their household: George Garber? Yarber? GA 19 wagoner; William Anderson 37 MS wagoner.

1880 McLennan Co., TX, ED115, p.214
[note: by 1880 they had moved to this location west of Waco, near Coryell line]:
CARTER, James, 65, farmer, b.NC, his father b.VA, his mother b.VA
Salina R.D., 61, wife, keeping house, SC/SC/SC.

1900
James Carter died 1892. Have not found Salina on the 1900 census.

Note: Husband of S. R. Carter.

Burial:
Osage Cemetery
Osage
Coryell County
Texas, USA

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Record added: Jan 03, 2004
Find A Grave Memorial# 8236438

James Carter and Salina Roxanna Dean married 4-27-1836 in Hardeman County, TN. Their first child Wm. Lafayette was born 1837 in Hardeman Co., TN., d.1906. By 1839 James and Salina had gone to Tippah Co., MS where they may have had a son John W. b.1839 d.1850. Also in Tippah Co. they had children Robert M. 1841-?; Mary "Mollie" Charlesann 1844-1911; Sarah Etter 1847-1921; and Emily, b.1849, d.bef.1860. In 1851, the Carters went to Webberville, Travis County, TX where they had the following children: Amanda Roxanna, b.1851-1852, d.1917; Anna Bell 1854-1925; James "Buck" 1856-1930; and Missie Lena 1859-1907. In the late 1860s, James and Salina moved to Waco. All of their grown children also moved to the general Waco area at about that same time. By 1880 James and Salina were living west of Crawford near Tonk Creek.

In 1851 they moved to Webberville, Travis Co. TX, on the Colorado River. at 30°13'51.76"N and 97°30'59.99"W. The 1851 date is supported by Travis County tax records and by a biography of the husband of one of their daughters in an 1892 book. The 1892 source also states that James Carter was a deputy sheriff in Webberville. About 1869 they moved to McLennan County. In 1870 they lived in the town of Waco. By 1880 they had moved southwest of Waco near the Coryell line. The specific community may have been known as Tonk Creek. Their property was just yards southwest of where Tonk Creek crosses High Bridge Road in western McLennan County.

Lat 31' 31'01'.28" N 97' 34' 21.25" W
NOTE: The two graves behind James and Salina's are those of their daughter-in-law Sarah Jane Kirby 1858-1901, wife of their son Buck, and Buck and Sarah's daughter Jessie Verdon 1887-1896. In this view, Sarah is on the left and Jessie on the right.

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James Carter's early life is as yet unknown. Per the census, he may have been born in North Carolina, South Carolina or Alabama. The 1880 census says he was born in NC and that his parents were born in Virginia. In 1836, Greenberry Carter was the bondsman on James' marriage record in Hardeman County, Tennessee (Note: Greenberry Carter was a son of Jesse Carter of Hardeman Co., Tenn. I do not believe Greenberry was James' father, since G.B. later named another son James. Also, G.B. was too young to have been married when James was born). James married Salina Roxanna Dean April 27, 1836 in Hardeman Co., Tenn. Their first child, William L. Carter, was born there in April 1837. By 1839 they had moved to Tippah County, Mississippi (Greenberry Carter also went to Tippah County). A child John W. Carter may have been born to James and Salina in 1839 in Tippah County. He died in 1850; do not know for certain that he was their child. Their next four children were born in Tippah County: Robert M. 1841, Mary "Mollie" Charlesann Elizabeth 1844, Sarah Etter 1847, and Emily b.1849-50, d.before 1860. In 1851, the Carters moved to Webberville on the Colorado River in Travis County, Texas, where James worked as a wagoner and also served as a deputy sheriff. His next four children were born in Webberville: Amanda Roxanna 1851-52, Anna Bell 1854, James Buchanan "Buck" 1856, and Missie Lena 1859. James' two oldest sons served in the Civil War. About 1869, the Carters (along with all their children) moved to Waco in McLennan County, Texas, where James worked as a wagoner. His daughter Mollie McIlhaney settled in Coryell County. By 1880, James and Salina had moved to a rural area west of Waco, where James farmed on land he owned near Tonk Creek. He passed away on July 15, 1892.
NOTE:
I have never seen an instance where James Carter used a middle initial. He has been confused with a James M. Carter who also lived in Waco.

James married Salina Roxanna Dean on 27 Apr 1836 in Hardeman, Tennessee. Salina (daughter of Robert P Dean) was born on 1 Jun 1819 in Georgia, United States; died on 10 Mar 1903 in Osage, Coryell County, Texas Osage Cemetery; was buried in 1903 in Osage, Coryell, Texas, United States of America. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• LifeSketch: Find A Grave Memorial# 8236432--Sketch and Photo
• FSID: F6V3-JKS
• Reference Number: 4915
• Residence: 1850, Tippah county, Tippah, Mississippi
• Residence: 1860, Precinct No 3, Travis, Texas, United States
• Residence: 1870, Texas, United States
• Residence: 1880, Waco, McLennan, Texas, United States

Notes:

Obituary;
Died near Waldo, McLennan county, Texas March 10 at 7 a.m., Mrs. Selena R. Carter, daughter of Rev. R. P. Dean. She was born June 1st 1819 in Hardeman county, Tennessee, moved from there to Tiper county Mississippi with her parents in 1832. At the age of 12 she made a profession of religion and joined the M. E. church South at Hickory Grove, Tennessee. Was married to James Carter April 28, 1835 [note: correct date is 1836], moved to Webberville, Travis county Texas in 1851. She was the mother of 11 children 4 of whom with her husband preceded her to their final resting place. This faithful servant of God has closed a long and useful life of nearly 84 years. For seventy-two years was a devout and active member of the Methodist church.

Notes:

Charles Thomas Karnes was born on November 16, 1812, in Georgia, to Moses Karnes (Kerns) and Sarah Craig. He married Mary Holmes on February 17, 1835, in Russell County, Kentucky and lived there about 15 years. This is where five of their children were born. They arrived in Coryell County, Texas, in late 1853 and settled, as original grantee, on 319 acres of land near the present town of Oglesby.

Charles died on October 24, 1882, in Oglesby, Texas, at the age of 69, and was buried in Post Oak Cemetery. Survivors included his wife, Martha, and his seven children.

Died:
Post Oak Cemetery

Charles married Mary Holmes. Mary was born in 1817; died in 1904. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]